New Zealand gets to keep The Hobbit – can we bill the Unions?
Filed under: Jobs & Work, Life in New Zealand, Only in New Zealand
The news has just come out – the two Hobbit Films will be filmed in New Zealand after two days of talks between the government and Warner Bros. But it is going to cost us $25m USD ($33m NZD). A cost that (despite all bitching to the contrary) we would not have had to pay had the unions not thought they could hold the films to ransom.
The details of the deal are:
- Government will tomorrow introduce a bill to clarify law on contractors for the film industry (only)
- A widening of the criteria for major film tax rebates which will come up at US$7.5m per film
- Govt to commit US$10m towards marketing of the films, in exchange for NZ tourism information being included in materials such as DVDs
- Govt and Warners to work together to promote NZ as a film production location and a tourist destination.
- We will be hosting one of the world premiers (Weyhey!!!! thats great for Wellington – I assume that Robyn Malcolm will not be attending?)
(List copied from Kiwiblog – apart from the last one - that was all me).
Well, at least now the people who claim this was all blown out of proportion just so that WB can get extra tax breaks have something of a fact to work with.
But the lies coming out from the Actors union are still continuing, and Peter Jackson has continued to release evidence to prove they are lying their butts off.
In an email circulated yesterday to members of Actor’s Equity from their executive the following claim is made:
“All NZ Equity sought was to meet with the production and discuss the conditions under which performers would be engaged….This request to meet was backed by the International Federation of Actors (FIA) and performers’ unions around the world including SAG and Equity UK. The request was in the first instance made privately, without the glare of the media on August 17. “
The letter that was sent can be downloaded here.
Recently, The International Federation of Actors (FIA) became aware that the production of “The Hobbit” intends to hire performers under non-union contracts. For this reason FIA, at its most recent meeting, unanimously passed the following motion:
“Resolved, that the International Federation of Actors urges each of its affiliates to adopt instructions to their members that no member of any FIA affiliate will agree to act in the theatrical feature film “The Hobbit” until such time as the producer has entered into a collective bargaining agreement with the Media Entertainment & Arts Alliance for production in New Zealand providing for satisfactory terms and conditions for all performers employed on the production”.
FIA therefore encourages you to meet immediately with representatives of the Media Entertainment and Arts Alliance in order to reach an agreement covering all performers engaged on this production.
In the first instance could you please make contact with Simon Whipp of the Media Entertainment & Arts Alliance.”
Peter Jackson goes on to say:
“This is the first time I was made aware of the issue. It was the first time a meeting was ever requested and it was clear from the letter, they had already voted to blacklist us, before even asking for one conversation with me. I am sick and tired of hearing Equity say ‘All we ever wanted was a meeting,’ because it’s disingenuous – they fail to add that from the outset, they had a gun to our head.”
“It just made me incredibly angry, I wondered how can a union behave like this? How could Simon Whipp initiate an international strike action against our film with no prior vote from the Kiwi membership?”
When NZ Equity did finally vote on the issue they didn’t ratify the international ban but, came up with a watered down version of the wording. “They couldn’t even agree to endorse an industrial action that had been taken out in their name. Frankly, the fact that all of this was driven by an Australian union official, only made me angrier. “
You know – this is one of those situations where you get this really weird Kiwi thing where someone makes an almighty cock-up – and rather than copping to it, admitting it, and apologise for it – they lie, and just keep on lying – refuse to even acknowledge there is a problem. While there is a lot in the Kiwi psyche to be very proud of – this just stinks. The people who have caused this have probably damaged their reputation indelibly. One of the key truisms of life in New Zealand – especially with Work here – is that this is a very small country and everyone knows you. You get a bad reputation here, and you are pretty much stuffed.
It’s actually something that has been used as a thinly veiled threat to hubby before now – don’t rock the boat (where have we heard that before?). But it works both ways. Act like a bully in the workplace – it gets around. Stamp your feet and cause a worldwide union boycott of a film – oddly enough you are going to end up looking like a right pillock – especially when you get caught out lying though your backside every 5 minutes.
“Maybe she’s just a lying liar who lies.”
Jeanessa @ LowCarbFriends (Something that has absolutely nothing to do with this story – I just love the quote!)
I am glad New Zealand won this fight. I am glad that the hobbit gets to be made here. I am disgusted that a group of people have cost this country $25m USD because they were so bloody stupid and egotistical, and these same people simply refuse to accept any responsibility for it. I hope they get billed for every last cent.
Finally – this was a full page ad taken out in the Dom Post today – it’s just brilliant, and says everything you need to know about the pride a lot of people have in their country and their film industry. And quite rightly too.
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Saving The Hobbits.
Today was Labour Day in New Zealand. And today was the day I attended my first ever Rally. This one was to show that people want to support Peter Jackson and the people that work for him – that we do not think he is a “spoiled brat” – and that he should not be vilified becuase he cant personally give a small group of actors an agreement that they can get standard terms and conditions on any and every job they get offered – even the ones he isn’t involved in.
To me – Peter Jackson and his team are the epitome of what is great about New Zealand. They don’t care that its a small country, they don’t care that theres only 4 million people here. They don’t care that we don’t yet have the best of everything in the world. All they care about is that here – you can BE the best in world – you can DO the best in the world, and you can damn well MAKE the best in the world.
I cant really compare this rally with others – but it was a very friendly and warm atmosphere.
The issue is still rumbling on: Warner Bros are speaking to Jackson and the Government Tomorrow. There are still some people who truly seem to believe that WB have somehow engineered all this to cop a better tax break from the NZ Government. To my knowledge – this is one of those things that just gets repeated so often – that people think it is true – but the only people saying it are the damn actors union and the journalists – and anyone who agrees with them. PJ hasn’t said he needs more tax break, and WB haven’t either.
The Actors involved (those who are prepared to say who they are) still seem to be coming up with a new version of the story every day. It has even been claimed that there was no international boycott – which is an interesting attempt at spin. There is no contrition – just a lament that they too want the Hobbit to be filmed here. That I actually believe. I honestly think that they just never expected PJ to take this snafu public – and let everyone know that his film was being held hostage. I don’t believe that they thought for one minute their actions would have the consequences they did. But they did have dramatic consequences – and continually refusing to front up and take some responsibility for the problems caused has just undermined the union, and a few actors in particular.
Sir Richard Taylor – Weta Digital
Sure – we need to fight for improved wages and conditions in New Zealand. But we need to do it for everyone. If this debacle has shown one thing – its that there are too many people in the unions here – the head of the Council of Trade Unions, Helen Kelly, for one who believe : “All workers are equal – but some workers are more equal than others”. Thats just not true. You do not have to be a member of a union to have work rights. Many of the people who would lose their jobs if the Hobbit was taken offshore are indeed union members – but they don’t count it seems. The unions should be fighting for everyone – not just a chosen few, and not just at a time its politically expedient for them – which right now in New Zealand seems to be the case. Becuase it is worth remembering that wages were kept low, and taxes high, and work terms and conditions were still appalling in New Zealand under the last Government -and that was at a time of financial boom.
Most of the staff made redundant at IBM could have used union representation. Not everyone has the will, the means or the sheer bloody-mindedness to take on a company that screws them over. But using your union to screw a company over for no other reason than you think it can get you what you want – even if they simply cannot do what you want – and they actually haven’t done anything wrong is a blatant misuse of that union – and the union movement.
Theres an interesting article here – an interview with Simon Whipp – hes the Aussie in charge of the Union. He makes it clear that they tried to talk with the producers of Outrageous Fortune, The Cult, and This is Not My Life – and failed. So my question is – seeing how your union members were actually involved in those shows – why the hell didn’t they refuse to work on them until standard T&C’s were written???? I can tell you – my life would have been significantly improved with a different set cast on TINML!
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Who wants a job in sales?
I’m sure this happens everywhere, not just in New Zealand, but don’t be fooled into thinking it wouldn’t happen here. It does, and we have seen the very real and devastating effect it can have on people’s lives when they suddenly find out that the rules have changed, and they will not be getting the income they were promised and needed.
If you do have a job with sales targets where only a proportion of your salary is fixed – remember that you can only bank on getting that part of the salary paid. Budget for that.
Hubby has turned down jobs that pay on this basis – because we know full well that this happens, and we just cannot afford for some manager to change the rules just because you happen to be really good at your job and they don’t want to have to pay you.
Oh….
(And apparently I need to stop reading these blogs to hubby while he’s got a mouthful of tea and a Laptop in front of him.)
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For Shane: The problems with overseas workers.
As promised, Ive copied the comment from Shane, so that it’s easier to both write a response and for people to read it. I guess for some people, the questions could be seen as “anti-immigrant” but I hope that most people will understand where he is coming from. I believe that these points are well made, and need to be thought about.
I am writing today too see what your thoughts are on Overseas workers – work force at present,
I have just spent 3 years working on projects around Taranaki in the Oil and generating electricity sector. I am a New Zealander born and bred and also a qualified electrician.
Recently have finished work on a big project, a company laid off 40 electricians, 10 stayed on, they were all from overseas – only a couple of them have just got nz qualified electrician, but the rest work under the company electrical licence – how does this help the NZ electricians ??
It doesn’t – and as far as I’m aware that it is total contravention of what immigration is there for. In fact – I blogged briefly in March last year about a similar issue – also in Taranaki. The original article in the papers is here. The important think to understand is whether the 10 people who were kept on were on Work Visas – or were permanent residents. If they were residents, then theres really not much you can do I’m afraid – they have actually worked through the legal process and have a right to the job if they will accept the wages (see below – my hubby has the same issue with Kiwis working for low wages).
If however they are on Work Permits – I would personally suggest you contact the journalist who wrote that article. It really is the best way to get things done in New Zealand – talk to the media. If I was going to make any more complaints about the immigration Dept – I honestly wouldn’t bother – Id just talk to the press and cause a load of hassle.
You also need to consider that while these migrants have just qualified in NZ (or not) – they may have decades of experience overseas that is basically shat on by New Zealand and totally discounted. Many British electricians are forced to work for peanuts when the come here despite being highly qualified and experienced sparkies. This is because of the outdated and stupid rules that says none of that counts for squat here. Again – it may actually not be the fault of the immigrant that they get paid so poorly. I have heard many UK sparkies complain bitterly at being paid so badly here, and it’s certainly not their choice – and they aren’t doing it to go to Australia. They have given up everything to move here.
Presently i have notice big electrical companies in the area hiring overseas workers to fill jobs in this region…….
1. Overseas workers are paid less – there fore less tax to the government – how is this beneficial to our country
This has always annoyed me – and it happens to be something that I have spoken and written about ever since we came to NZ ourselves almost 6 years ago. If the Skilled Migrant system was being used properly – then overseas workers should be employed because they have skills that NZ needs – so why are they being paid less? Often we have skills that NZers don’t actually have, but are needed, yet we get paid less becuase we aren’t Kiwis? I guess in this, Ive been arguing the other side of the point from you – but thinking about it it would have the same result. Overseas workers would not be hired because they are cheaper than Kiwi’s.
To me that is wrong, and its both exploiting an overseas workforce, and as you point out – there are Kiwis who should have those jobs. Immigration is supposed to fill a Labour gap – not create unemployment for Kiwis.
2. Overseas workers send all their money offshore to support their families – how does this benefit our country
I’m going to assume here that you are not in fact talking about ALL overseas workers? I think its fair to say that most of the migrants I personally know are Brits, and I would like to assure you that our wages are sure as hell not leaving NZ – we can’t afford to do that! I wish I knew the answer to this – it happens in Britain as well – and is about as popular. You can’t ban people from doing it – and I cant see a way for the immigration dept to screen people coming here on the basis of where they spend the money they earn.
It does kinda worry me that low NZ wages are still considered high enough for some people to leave their families, come here to work, and still have enough left over to send back home.
3. Overseas worker are only here for 3 years to achieve NZ residency, then off they go to AUZ where they get better pay,
To be fair – that happens the other way as well. When migrants decide they want to go to either Australia or New Zealand, there is always the option of going to the one where you can get a job, and using that to bounce into the other. We were personally advised to emigrate to Australia first as a way of getting into New Zealand. No good for us – as I sure as hell wasn’t going to live in Aus!
Also, it is the case that less immigrants leave New Zealand to go to Australia than Kiwis.
4. so while this happens Overseas worker don’t care about working conditions, hourly rates, all they are here for is to get NZ residency and leave,
Nutters! Yeah – I feel your frustration on this one. In hubbies line of work there is often the same issue: people (often Kiwis in this case) who are prepared to accept being treated like crap, get paid a lot less than they are worth, don’t get pay rises for years on end, don’t get a bonus unless they do the jobs of 10 people. I’m not sure that would be particularly an Overseas worker issue – though again – I’m happy to accept that the kind of work you were doing would mean you are seeing something quite different to me.
I know immigration have stepped in recently and prosecuted some guys for using overseas farm labour – basically little more than slaves. It’s an extreme version of what you are talking about – but yes – a lot of farm workers were being paid a few dollars an hour, and it took a long time for them to complain about it to the authorities.
5. mean while this is driving down my working conditions and hourly rate.
Yep. Again – we have the same issue – if people are willing to work the equivalent of 10 jobs for less money and worse conditions than my hubby would – oddly enough – he’s the one that loses his job. One of the reasons I actually write this blog – and wrote the book – and before that used to write on forums, was to persuade immigrants that taking a low paid job just because it was in New Zealand was counterproductive – for everyone. We are fed a line that living here is so cheap, we don’t NEED to earn much – then once you get here on a low salary – it takes some guts to fight for more. It’s complete bollocks of course – Kiwis all know that living here is relatively expensive – but migrants don’t know that. They are being conned by Kiwi Employers into taking those crap wages and working conditions.
6. Then the companies hire overseas workers are making more money as they pay them less and charge out the same rate regardless, are hiring good accountants to hide their tax’s and make more profit.
I should declare that I’m personally a huge fan of hiring an accountant so I pay less tax (which I will continue to do until governments world-wide stop wasting taxes becuase there know theres an endless store of more funds they can steal from me). If you haven’t really read my blog before – you may not have come across that. Companies making a profit is not a bad thing – but on the one hand exploiting cheap migrant labour while on the other hand refusing Kiwis work is in my book NOT the way to do that.
7. Meanwhile i sit on the dole as a citizen of this country with a trade
8. And yes – i have rang WINZ and ask what they have in plan for Qualified, experienced trades person like myself for CHCH clean up and helping – and like all government agency’s – i have yet to hear back from WINZ…..i wonder if you can help on these questions ??
I think you may be working at this from the wrong angle to be honest. Please consider emailing that journalist – and see if theres a story here for them. You certainly shouldn’t be on the dole with a skill like this – and as I understand whats happening with immigration – they CANNOT give a work visa to a migrant if theres a Kiwi that can do the job. I know from what I was told about 12 months by a staffer at Immigration that they are turning down 95% of work visa applications. And many migrants on work visas (those are the temporary ones – different from Permanent residence) are being sent back to their home countries even if they have been here for many years.
As for Christchurch – I think thats exactly where you should be heading. I’m gobsmacked that WINZ aren’t on top of this already! But then again – maybe I shouldn’t be. In your shoes – I would actually contact the Sallie Army down there and see if they have any contacts of people looking for sparkies. Possibly even the mayors office? There has to be someone down there who can point you in the right direction.
Regarding the issue of whether you have lost your job to a migrant when the company should not be employing migrants if Kiwis are available:
Well – as Ive said above – you need to understand that theres really only an issue you can do something about if they are on Temporary Work Permits. If you know that is the case – and you choose to make a complaint and not go to the media – the address you need is:
The Manager
Compliance Operations
Immigration New Zealand
PO Box 5342
AUCKLAND
At least I think it is – I couldn’t find any clear info that covers your issue. Just be aware that Immigration don’t take kindly to people making complaints – probably you’ll get as far as you would with letters to MP’s! I still reckon the media is the way to go – but DO make sure you have your facts right about the migrants involved. Thats really important – otherwise you will do your case more harm than good.
I know thats not really much help to your current situation, but I hope I have helped in some way. And I hope you get that job soon.
Good luck 
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Telling your boss to stick it ;)
Here’s something for all shat on employees, in any company, in any country. Of course I’m not thinking of any particular company or any particular country.
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I couldn’t possibly comment lol.
Edited to add this one in, which came out the next day. Almost as funny.
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Are you emigrating to Christchurch?
Filed under: Getting to New Zealand, NZIS & Immigration issues
Ok – I have no idea how this earthquake situation is going to pan out – no-one does right now. But it occurs to me that if you were planning on emigrating to New Zealand, and in particular Christchurch (which is the 2nd most popular destination) then you need to be thinking about certain things. So I’m going to run through the things I think you might need to be aware of, and any info that I can find which is more specific to migrants.
Most of the travel info in here is sourced from the Canterbury Tourist Info site – which seems to be updating regularly – and providing a lot of useful info.
Airport
The international airport is open, and flights are still arriving – including from Australia and Singapore – so there don’t appear to be any issues there.
Christchurch International Airport is fully operational. Runways, car park building and terminals have been fully assessed. Runways are undamaged. Terminals are structurally sound, but there is some superficial damage.
Hotels
Currently, Hotels in the city and surrounding areas have rooms available. Some in the CBD cannot be accessed as the center is cordoned off and no one can get in. This is while the work crews go in and assess the damage and make sure the buildings are safe.
The advice is to check with your planned hotel BEFORE you leave to go to Christchurch, and make sure they still have room, and are still OK to take guests.
Immigration
Earthquake? What Earthquake? You mean there’s been a major disastrous earthquake in one of the major destinations for immigrants to New Zealand??? Oh.
So basically – bugger all information on what to do if you say – have a work visa for a job in Christchurch that no longer exists. Not a peep in the latest news section, and all they say on the home page is that the Christchurch office is closed and ring the contact centre. Helpful. Unless you need to retrieve a passport from the Christchurch office. They have a q&a for that.
Rentals
Well – this is the bit that could get messy. A lot of houses have significant damage, and at this stage its hard to tell from the news thats coming out what the long tern or even short term effects on rentals is going to be. Property Talk has a thread about the earthquakes – with some input from Landlords and Property managers in the area and whats going on. Theres also a fascinating comment on this post on Interest.co.nz from a landlord (1st Comment) who went out to inspect his properties on Saturday. I think this illustrates really well the problems that will be faced by all property owners in the areas affected.
The Herald has a map of the worst affected areas showing where all the aftershocks are, and you can zoom in to see if where you were thinking of moving too is affected.
Buying Houses
Way too early to say what the hell is going to happen here, but a lot of houses will be demolished, and I would hazard a guess that it may be tricky to get insurance on any houses you do buy in certain areas. But thats going to take a while to work through the system. I don’t think its going to be great news for house values in the area though.
This though is when you get your head around understanding why New Zealand houses look so lightweight and flimsy compared to UK 2ft-thick-stone-walls style homes.
Areas in Trouble
The Central city was really badly affected – it seems because of the sheer number of heritage buildings which were not earthquake strengthened. (I bet Wellington City Building owners will now not complain so loudly that the council is insisting on improved Earthquake Strengthening). As of now about 79% of buildings in the CBD have been given a green sticker – which means they are safe. 5% of the buildings have a Red Sticker – which means they are to be demolished.
The news today was focusing on a area north of the city called Kaiapoi, which has been really badly effected by Liquefaction and damage to water and sewer lines. New Brighton is also particularly badly effected by liquefaction from what I can tell.
The absolute best website Ive found so far for information an specific areas is canterburyearthquake.org, particularly the Incident Map which shows an amazing amount of detailed info about the kind of damage in an area.
Jobs
Well, the economy in the area is going to take a hit – so if you have a job lined up in Christchurch – you will obviously need to be in contact with your potential employer to find out what is happening. Just be aware that some areas are still without power or phones, and it may take some time to get through or for people to get back to you.
If the news reports are anything to go by – there is still a feeling of shock in the area – and they are still getting frequent aftershocks – so don’t panic if you don’t hear anything. I do however think it’s important to be prepared for the fact that the job situation may change drastically, and if Immigration New Zealand aren’t being flexible, this could cause all sorts of issues. Be especially careful if you are in possession of Work Visas, or you have a residence visa with a Section 18a Clause on it – as these do not allow for flexibility. Only INZ can say what to do in this situation I’m afraid, so you need to be in contact with your case officer as a matter of priority.
On the plus side – any tradespeople may be seen as absolute godsends right now. Assuming that Immigration New Zealand actually notices theres been an earthquake.
OK, thats all for now. As I said, I’m not really sure how useful that will be in the long run, or even for people arriving in the short term, but I guess if it gives even one person a bit of info they didn’t have before and were worrying about then thats all good.
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Wellington life; the three minute commute
When we first emigrated to Wellington, the new apartment with a new job were pretty close. Two sets of lifts, two sets of pedestrian traffic lights and six minutes later I’m in the office.
A far cry from the typical 2 hours drive each way, which in some cases took me more than six minutes to walk from one end of the car park into the office. And lets just ignore the 4+ hours it took to get into central London using a car, train, underground & my feet.
Contracting means I’m floating around town a lot now, a different office different months. Right at the moment I’m in an office on Tory St. While we live in an apartment on…
Tory St. 
I’m timed the commute, from leaving my desk, getting into the lift, walking across the road, back into a lift and getting in the apartment door it takes 3 minutes.
Which is kinda nice.
It means I can pop home for a coffee break, some decent lunch or when I’ve forgotten something.
Or when Avalon is about to throw the Laptop out of the window. 
So it’s not far off working from home, I don’t get to wander around in jeans & t-shirt though.
Avalon and Hubby: Making the most of city living!
Employers can look at your immigration status directly???
In theory – I really don’t object too much to employers being able to check your visa status – after all, we would generally have to show them a copy of the visa to prove our eligibility to work for them. But today I read at Visa Bureau that Immigration New Zealand have set up an Online system called Visa View where potential employers can check you out.
Welcome to VisaView
This service allows New Zealand employers to access records held by Immigration New Zealand and to check whether a person who is not a New Zealand citizen is entitled to work in New Zealand.
It will provide a tracking mechanism so that employers can prove they are doing the proper checks – which helps them stay within new (and improved) immigration legislation that will come into force later this year. My only really beef with this is to wonder who INZ can so quickly set up a new online Information Sharing system so easily to employers, and yet cant tell what each of their offices is going yet, or send files electronically between offices yet. The mind boggles.
By the way the penalties for an employer taking on an immigrant that is not entitled to work in New Zealand is oddly enough a fraction of the penalties that can be imposed on an Immigrant for given unlicensed immigration advice.
You don’t say! And agents wonder why I an still so contemptuous of their law?
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Moving back into Wellington.
Filed under: Cost of living, Jobs & Work, Property & General Investing
The one thing you can pretty much be sure of when you emigrate, is that things don’t always go quite to plan.
Hubby’s redundancy has thrown a bit of a spanner in the works, in that he can’t work at home. The contracts he’s on mean he has to be in the office, so it’s getting difficult to maintain a life in the Wairarapa and keep stress levels down. So we have been renting a Studio apartment in town, which he lives in during the week, sometimes with me there as well.
Unfortunately its too small for both of us, so we were stuck with living apart most of the time, and that’s just not exactly the “lifestyle” we were after when we emigrated.
So we have bitten the bullet and rented a full size two bed apartment in the centre of the city. We actually own an apartment in the same block, but its tenanted – and besides – it would actually cost us a lot more to live in our own apartment.
I say full size because New Zealand cities (Particularly Auckland and now Wellington is following) are notorious for “shoe box” apartments. That’s fine if you are renting studios or 1 beds for just a single person, but I saw some brand new 2 bed apartments the other week that were about half the size of ours (and only a bit less in price). It pays to be aware of this if you are renting – don’t rent anything without seeing it first – you will probably get a shock.
So we are going to actually become the kind of “trendy wellingtonians” who live in the city during the week, and descend en masse to the Wairarapa at the weekends. Because I know full well that I cant live in town full time – its too crowded and noisy for me. I intend to make the most of city living – it will be nice to get back to going to the movies regularly for example, but I know I need to be able to get away from it as well.
And to be honest we live in such a stunning place – I just don’t really think giving up the big house in the country with the pool is an option.
So – I may be writing some slightly different blog posts – more stuff about Wellington and less about living in the back of beyond.
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