HiFX vs ASB on Exchange rates.
Filed under: Avalon's Money Thread, Banks, Exchannge Rate & Currency Transfers
So, having opened up our US$ account, we needed to put US$10,000 into it.
For the past week, I have been watching the exchange rate, and using HiFX’s online system to check how much in NZ$ it would cost me to buy US$10,000.
I decided this morning after an overnight rise to make the move.
HiFX were quoting
NZ$ 12,632.00
I phoned ASB Global Markets (this is the branch that operates the Foreign Currency Accounts) and got a rate of…
NZ$ 12,618.00
That’s a saving of $14.00. Small but I will take it. Also, over the past few days – its come down from a more expensive NZ$ 12,744. So by waiting I have actually saved $126.
What bugs me though is that HiFX should not be able to be beaten by the banks. Because of the amounts I was looking at there were no fees with HiFX, and yet they still have a rate significantly worse than the bank was offering.
There is something seriously screwed up at HiFX these days. I wish they would sort it out, but given the snotty attitude last time I tried to talk to them about it – I get the feeling the can’t be arsed.
Opening a US$ account at ASB
Filed under: Avalon's Money Thread, Banks, Exchannge Rate & Currency Transfers
We have decided to open up a US$ account here in New Zealand. While our original UK accounts are still active, and based in the UK, we really don’t need a UK£ account here. But the issue we have at the moment is that the shares we hold in IBM are in US$. And while the share price and the dividends we get are quite nice in US$ amounts, once we pay them into our NZ$ account, we really aren’t getting our moneys worth.
So by letting the money sit in a US$ account, we can wait till the rate improves and get a better deal.
For ease we have opened up the US$ account at ASB. Applying is fairly straightforward – the major hitch is that you need to put a certain amount into the account to open it (amount depends on the currency). In the case of US$ – you need $10,000. Not exactly pocket change.
Now we have managed to get that, basically because I have that money in out Tax Savings account. It’s money that really doesn’t belong to us – we will need to pay it to the tax man – but because we are self employed – we don’t have to pay it for ages. So we borrow the funds to get the account set up.
The nice thing is that you don’t have to KEEP US$10,000 in the account.
You just need to put it in there to activate the account. Then you can move it back out when you want to.
There are NO FEES to operate the account. There are some fairly hefty fees if you want to do certain things – like get a NZ$ bank draft from the account – but that is basically the same with any ASB account. And if you wanted to pay cash into the account – that would cost. But electronic transfers into the account, or paying US$ cheques in costs nothing.
Which is good.
What is not so good is that if you do pay a foreign currency cheque into ANY ASB account (whether your normal current account or a foreign currency account) ASB sit on it for 21 working days. That’s basically a month. (Usual guff about money laundering blah blah blah).
In your normal account, it just sits there, gets noted on your statement and is in the Account Balance, but doesn’t get added to the Available Balance until the 21 (working) days are up.
In a foreign Currency Account, it sits in a separate Term Deposit before being cleared and transferred to your Foreign Currency Cash account. If you transfer money from your normal NZ account into the US$ account – that is not held for 21 days and shows up as usual.
Also, its worth noting that from my parents experience, paying cheques into these accounts generates a forest worth of paperwork. So make sure you have a good filing system for it.
The 47 Rules of money
Filed under: Avalon's Money Thread, Banks, Cost of living, General Budgeting, Interest Rates, Credit Cards & Mortgages in NZ
This appeared in the Herald on New Years Eve, written by Diana Clement. I really like her articles about personal finance, and shes well worth a read. Unlike Mary Holm, she writes about general finance and makes an awful lot of sense, rather than just bleating on about how wonderful Kiwisaver is and how bad eveything that isn’t Kiwisaver is.
She has written her 47 rules of money, apparently in line with 47 years of life. I have to agree with just about all of them – and actually practice many of them. So here they are – with an occasional comment!
General:
1 Track your spending. You can’t budget if you don’t know what you’re spending.
- Probably the single most important thing you can do with your money.
2 Needs and wants are often confused. This is perhaps the biggest financial mistake that people make.
3 Talk money with those linked to you financially. Whether it’s parents, partners, children, employers, or business associates, get financial discussions out in the open.
4 People are too quick to judge others’ financial decisions, me included. But that needs to be balanced against my next rule, number 5.
5 People will justify their bad financial decisions to the end of the earth. “I did all the right research,” one finance company investor told me as my eyebrows went through my hairline.
6 Monkey see monkey do. Children learn about finances by watching their parents, not listening to hypocritical lectures.
7 You can earn a good salary and still be poor. Budget advice services sometimes see people with six-figure salaries who still can’t make ends meet.
- This is one of the biggest fallacies many people believe about money – people who earn more cannot be poor. It just doesn work like that.
8 People can and do lose all their money. A couple of times a generation a collapse such as Black Monday arrives with disastrous effects for thousands of people. Others fall for tricksters such as the off-the-plan apartment salespeople or Ponzi scheme promoters.
9 Entrepreneurship is good. Grounded but entrepreneurial people do well financially. They may not succeed in making their fortune first time around, but often do if they persevere.
10 You can be a capitalist and still have a social conscience. I admire philanthropists.
11 You don’t have to have a high-paying job to get wealthy. I once interviewed a successful property investor who worked by day on the shop floor at Noel Leeming and made his real money after 5pm.
12 Don’t blame your parents, your children, your partner or your education. Responsibility is good when it comes to finances.
13 Even beneficiaries can save. Some people live within their means no matter how little they earn. Saving money is a choice.
14 Some people want to be poor. They think they’re poor and that they’ll always be poor and sabotage their financial future.
15 Pay your taxes on time. The IRD has a big stick.
- And endless funds (paid for by you) to chase you with!
Spending:
16 I regret frittering money on coffees and unnecessary eating out. It would be better to direct that money towards savings.
- Um, Ok – can’t agree with that one clearly!
17 Spending money on experiences is good spending. I am eternally grateful that I sold all but one of my shares at age 22 (by coincidence in August 1987) and went backpacking through Latin America. It’s good spending if the experience enriches life.
18 Braking wastes fuel. This was one of those wonderful chestnuts that it takes a few seconds to get your head around. If you drive too fast and brake regularly, you’re using petrol on wasted momentum. Driving well can save 10 per cent of your fuel bill.
19 It’s moronic to incur fines. Like the maniac driver in a big red American-style pickup truck who overtook me on State Highway 2 on December 17, just to be pulled over and fined.
20 You can get rich one dollar at a time. Every dollar is precious. Think before you spend it.
Debt:
21 Save before you buy. A bit of a radical concept in 2011, but it can change people’s financial future.
22 Interest-free hire purchase deals are for suckers. You still pay an establishment fee and the majority of people fail to clear the debt on time and pay interest anyway.
23 Credit cards make you look rich. Anyone can live well for a few years, but the debt catches up.
- I would add to this that often when you see people splashing the cash around, and you feel sorry for yourself because you can’t do the same – you might want to spend some time wondering if that’s really their money – or a credit card they can’t afford to pay off. They may not be as rich as they look.
24 The only “good debt” is mortgage debt. Provided you don’t over-leverage yourself.
25 Interest payments on personal loans, credit cards and HP are “idiot tax”. Why throw money away unnecessarily?
26 Having a credit card debt need not be the norm. A credit card limit is a safety net, not personal money to spend.
Investments and financial products:
27 Beware of investments discussed at barbecues. When the whole world is piling into an investment such as property, gold, tech shares and so on, you’ve almost certainly missed the boat.
28 Buy property young, preferably in your 20s. Move heaven and earth to get the deposit. Rent is wasted money.
29 Any offer that comes over the telephone isn’t worth having. Just ask the people who were cold called by Blue Chip, timeshare schemes, or horse betting scams.
30 Having life insurance is a good idea. Paying that monthly premium feels like dead money (excuse the pun). The payout when you die can give your beneficiaries choices at a difficult time in life.
31 An entire class of investment can crash and burn. Who remembers: Equiticorp, Chase Corporation, Renouf Corp, Judge Corp and more that collapsed like a pack of cards after the 1987 crash? Then there were tech stocks, mortgage-backed securities and finance company debentures.
32 Shares can be “safer” in the long term than bank deposits. The argument, which I first read on the Motley Fool website, is that over 10 or 20 years good share investments will keep pace with inflation, while bank deposits will be eroded.
33 KiwiSaver is good. This is a red rag to many readers. Government-led retirement programmes get people saving for their future.
- Ok – one point out of 47 – at least it’s in balance!
34 Insurance policies are full of gotchas. For goodness sake READ EVERY WORD of your policy.
35 Property investment isn’t always as safe as bricks and mortar. It can turn to custard. Mortgagee sales happen all the time – especially with investment properties.
- A lesson many people are learning the hard way – you still need to watch your money, be sensible, and understand the basics. It is NOT easy money, it is NOT guaranteed, and it is NOT always a fast road to riches. (You will also meet a lot of arseholes willing to screw you over (Mr Agile Property management AKA Eric Voice) among some of the friends you will make.
36 Markets overshoot and undershoot. If a market’s fundamentals (such as the yield on investment property) are out of historic kilter the market is probably brewing a bubble.
37 The best time to buy is just after a crash. Buy fundamentally good investments when everyone else is bailing out of the market.
- I so wish I was flush with cash right now. One of the painful side effects of buying property at the hight of the market is not having cash to buy in the crash!
38 Beware of investing just to save tax. Is the investment actually any good or is someone desperate to sell it to you?
Financial advice and salespeople:
39 Take your advice from people who have been through several cycles. Johnny-come-latelies going through their first financial cycle underestimate the risks.
40 Your money is your responsibility. Yes, employ a financial adviser, mortgage broker, accountant and other professionals, but make sure you understand what they tell you and double-check that your money is adequately spread.
- Abso-fragging-loutely. NO ONE will care as much about your money as you do. Unless they are looking to take it off you.
41 Seminar presenters aren’t always financial experts. They probably make their money from seminars, not from the actual investment they’re preaching about.
42 Credit rating agencies don’t always get it right. Some companies deceive the agencies, others are part of an industry that may not be well understood by the ratings agencies.
43 Don’t believe the get-rich-quick conmen. You should aim to get richer slowly, but steadily.
44 Government subsidies are a magnet for spruikers. Sharks swarm around government money. Just look at the people selling insulation, heating, and ventilation or those who have been caught selling KiwiSaver door-to-door.
Others:
45 Passive cash-flow rules. Finding ways to make money that don’t need your hourly input makes sense.
46 Telling the truth infuriates some readers. Suggesting that people can change their financial ways brings in a flurry of outraged emails.
47 You can learn more about money. The easiest and cheapest way to improve your knowledge is to get a book out of the library.
- Or – ahem – buy mine!
And I’m adding one of my own:
48. Have a Sanity Allowance. Pocket money is not just for kids, and it will save you a whole heap of money and arguments. Along with tracking our money and actively managing the money – this would be the most useful thing I ever learned about dealing with finances.
New Zealand interest rates coming down.
Filed under: Cost of living, Economics, Interest Rates, Credit Cards & Mortgages in NZ
Last week the Reserve bank held the base rate steady – and this week, some of the main banks have cut thier mortgage rates. It means that Fixed Rates are coming down towards the floating rates – though the long term fixed rates are still way too high for me! Im using ASB rates for ease – but Westpac and Kiwibank have also dropped the rates.
As at 12:25:54 p.m., Thursday 15 September 2011
- Housing Variable 5.75 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (6 Month) 5.85 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (12 Month) 5.90 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (18 Month) 6.10 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (24 Month) 6.30 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (36 Month) 6.70 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (48 Month) 7.05 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (60 Month) 7.40 % p.a.
- ORBIT Home Loan 5.75 % p.a.
As at 09:47:18 a.m., Wednesday 2 November 2011
- Housing Variable 5.75 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (6 Month) 5.75 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (12 Month) 5.80 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (18 Month) 5.80 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (24 Month) 6.00 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (36 Month) 6.30 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (48 Month) 6.70 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (60 Month) 7.10 % p.a.
- ORBIT Home Loan 5.75 % p.a.
For New Zealand – these are REALLY low rates – but still way higher than you may be used to.
New Zealand Interest Rate changes
Filed under: Banks, Economics, Interest Rates, Credit Cards & Mortgages in NZ
The reserve bank has held our base interest rate – and now it seems most of the “experts” how claimed the rate would be rising by the end of this year have changed their minds and now claim it will be march next year.
Apparently they will have to go but then some say they shouldn’t. Some say they should stay the same.
Helpful.
Interesting, I checked the ASB home loan interest rates – and they have gone down recently:
As at 01:33:46 a.m., Thursday 4 August 2011
- Housing Variable 5.75 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (6 Month) 5.85 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (12 Month) 6.15 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (18 Month) 6.40 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (24 Month) 6.65 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (36 Month) 6.95 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (48 Month) 7.35 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (60 Month) 7.75 % p.a.
- ORBIT Home Loan 5.75 % p.a.
As at 12:25:54 p.m., Thursday 15 September 2011
- Housing Variable 5.75 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (6 Month) 5.85 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (12 Month) 5.90 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (18 Month) 6.10 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (24 Month) 6.30 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (36 Month) 6.70 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (48 Month) 7.05 % p.a.
- Housing Fixed (60 Month) 7.40 % p.a.
- ORBIT Home Loan 5.75 % p.a.
I’m still not fixing from my flexible rates.
Overcharging – it’s not just rugby shirts.
Filed under: Cost of living, Exchannge Rate & Currency Transfers, Life in New Zealand, Only in New Zealand
So Adidas hae been given one helluva kicking over here for charging about $220 for a new All Blacks jersey, when they charge less than half that overseas. The people of New Zealand have (rightly in my opinion) expressed utter disgust at being blatantly ripped off. The jerseys are manufactured like most things- in China – so the price paid at the till has nothing to do with the cost of making the product. But that aside – why do Kiwis have to pay twice as much here for their home shirt as someone in the UK?
It has been all over the news. Boycotts were planned. It became a PR disaster that just got worse as the big wigs tried hard to justify the price with the usual bull crap about currency fluctuations, local conditions oh – and they have paid hundreds of millions of dollars of sponsorship to New Zealand rugby – so the price of the jerseys has to be higher.
Now I personally don’t give a toss about rugby, and wouldn’t pay anything at all for a jersey. But without a doubt there is a captive market who want to buy the new strip to support their team in the world cup. Why should they be ripped off?
This has shown up how much people spend on Internet shopping here though. Even John Key talked on TV about the fact that its cheaper to by and import books from abroad. But many Kiwis actually cant access Internet shopping because they don’t have credit cards and eftpos cards cant be used to buy anything online. That will change as the NZ banks join the 20th century and bring out proper debit cards 0 but still it means that a large proportion of people have no choice but to pay too much.
My main issue is that this has focused on a Rugby Shirt.
What about books, dvds, CD’s. Medicines, clothes, shoes.All of these things cost way more than they should, and are cheaper to import individually from the UK or the US.
Food is also hideously overpriced, with the extra downside that you cannot exactly import fresh food, and even the stuff you can import yourself, you have to try and find a supplier who will ship it here.
Medicines are also a bit harder to import – the best way being to ask friends to buy for you and post them here. And you have the downside that some medicines you cannot import as they are restricted anyway. But WHY are we being asked to pay way over the odds for goods. We are not talking luxuries here – basics are overpriced as much as things that could be considered wants rather than needs.
I would really like to know where the money we pay for these things goes – because I actually doubt its going to the retailers to be honest. I know in the Adidas cock-up the issue was that Adidas set different wholesale prices depending on the country they were selling to. Is that what happens with books and the rest of it?
The New Zealand Art Show Wellington
Last night we popped along to the opening of the NZ Art Show in Wellington.
Now this isn’t usually “our thing”. Neither of us are particularly “arty”, and I have a tendency to think of things like this as a little pretentious. Though I do quite love painting an drawing myself. But in this case we were actually invited by the Bank.
Yep. We owe the bank enough money that they invited us to something!
Actually that’s not strictly true – we owe them more than we did when we bought our home, but it’s still not exactly a huge amount. But ASB are the main sponsors of the event, and our personal manager at the Manners Street branch asked if we would like to go.
Far be it from me to turn down wine and nibbles supplied by the bank!
But you know, the event really is rather impressive – even if Art is not really your thing. The main impression I left with was there that would be something in there for everyone. Some of it I found hideous, and some I swear I would have whipped out the credit card for if I had had the money to burn on it. But I guess that is the point of art – it’s all very individual. One person’s loves are another person’s loathes. And as long as you can afford it – well, then it’s your taste that matters, not anyone elses.
Just don’t take out a loan from the very friendly bank to do it!
As someone buys a piece, new work is added, so over the three days of the exhibition, it will be changing.
Tickets are $10 each for Friday during the day, Saturday and Sunday.
Edited to add. As we were leaving we saw Alan Bollard, govener of the Reserve Bank heading into the show. I sure hope he wasnt buying anything and thus adding to the rate of inflation meaning he just has to put our interest rates up!
Paying off debt – still too hard for most people :(
Filed under: Banks, General Budgeting, Interest Rates, Credit Cards & Mortgages in NZ
According to a piece on the herald today, Kiwi consumer debt (that doesn’t include mortgages on property) still stands at a whopping $11.96 billion. That’s $11,960,000,000. Now the Stats NZ population clock stands at over 4.4 million, but census information says there are 895,000 people here under the age of 15. Which leaves an “adult(ish) population of 3.5million give or take. Which means on average every one over the age of 15 would be carrying a debt of $3417 each, all at high interest rates. This is debt on credit cards, store card and hire purchase.
That’s actually quite a lot really.
And according to the article, the most that people are thinking of doing to sort this out is not get further into debt. But there are very few people thinking of paying it down.
Now for the moment, we also have some consumer debt on a credit card – expenses from setting hubby up as a contractor. As you know, we swapped this to a “low” interest credit card, saving us about $250 a month in interest, and that is being paid off rapidly, and will be gone by the end of September. To be honest, I felt really unconformable having the debt there, and it just didn’t seem to be getting lower. So we took steps and have budgeted $2000 a month to pay the card off. Now most people will not have the income to do that, especially here in New Zealand. But the bottom line is – debt has to be paid off somehow.
It doesn’t have to be $2000 a month, but it does have to be more than the minimum payment, and having consumer debt means if nothing else – you have to stop buying things you cannot afford.
Its a pain – but its true.
Apparently the interest we are collectively paying on our credit cards (at an average of 18%) is $650 million in a year.Now shared amongst the same 3.5 million of us sharing the debt, that works out at a reasonable sounding $185 a year each. But when you consider that you pay that for the privilege of having the debt, and you actually don’t have anything to show for it – its a bit of a waste of money isn’t it?
Believe me – that $2000 debt repayment could be much better spent on us having some fun. Though actually because I’m completely sad – once the credit card is paid off, its going to be used to pay down some of our business mortgages. We may however be able to use 1 month of it to fund the purchase of a new laptop. In the meantime, I gain a huge amount of pleasure from denying the banks a fair chunk of interest each month.
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Would you apply for a mortgage for someone else…
Filed under: Banks, Economics, General Budgeting, Interest Rates, Credit Cards & Mortgages in NZ, Property & General Investing
and then complain when you realise that you were scammed and the mortgage broker lied to you when they told you it was to help a British couple out whose money was locked up in the UK???
Much as I would like to help people make the move to New Zealand – the answer for me is
NO WAY IN HELL! 
Because call me nuts – but isn’t it fraud to apply for a mortgage or loan under you own name, when you know its actually for someone else, especially when you are doing so on the promise of being paid money by these people when the loan draws down, and then a monthly fee from them?
This is what has happened to a couple on the Kapiti Coast. They got scammed by Kerry Brundle, a mortgage broker. And they have finally woken up and gone to the police – along with many other victims who for some utterly inexplicable reason took out loans to give this woman money. The mortgage payments were supposed to be met by Brundle, or some other fictitious character and then the people scammed were also supposed to receive a payment when the loan was drawn down, and then ongoing payments each month. To say “Thank you”.
Mark Mason can testify to how persuasive Ms Buddle could be. He took out a $42,000 mortgage on his house in Paraparaumu in 2008 so he could lend her money to renovate her home. He has since had to sell his house to avoid a mortgagee sale.
“She said it would be good for both of us. I trusted her, she was a friend. I thought this has got to be easy – get $1000 upfront then $100 a month – for signing a piece of paper.”
Were they all barking nuts???
Why oh why oh why would you mortgage your house, risk yours and your families financial future to give money to someone else? Charity is one thing – stupidity is quite another. If you have the money and want to help people – that’s great: laudable and entirely your choice. But when you are prepared to sign loan documents under your own name knowing full well that you are lying about the loan being for you in exchange for money, I’m afraid any sympathy I have goes out the window. To me – this is what greed is – you do something which highly unethical, because someone is going to pay you money to do it.
That doesn’t diminish how much of a snake Kerry Brundle is – living like a millionaire on the money she scammed out of people. There are an awful lot of people out there pretending they have a lot of money when they don’t, so she will not be the last person to get caught for trying to live off other people’s money I’m sure.
Why do people do this?
We were prepared to take a certain amount of risk when taking out mortgages to buy our investment properties. But always – we ran the numbers, listened to advice, and remembered that if we screwed up or things got difficult – we were risking not just our home and future – but that of my Parents and brother as well. I sure as hell would never risk that to borrow money for someone else! If I give money – for any reason – it is money I can afford to give – and I give it because I want to – not because someone will pay me to do so.
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I’m a credit card tart and proud of it!
Filed under: Banks, General Budgeting, Interest Rates, Credit Cards & Mortgages in NZ
A credit card tart is someone who swaps the balance of their credit card to another card in order to take advantage of special low introductory rates on balance transfers.
This was hugely popular in the UK in the years before we emigrated, where it was not unusual to get several offers in the post each month from different providers, often with 0% interest on the balance transfer.
Now many people took these out, and ended up spending yet more money and ended up with a lot more debt. But people in the know used these rates to pay down debt faster and faster – including us.
Yet when we came to New Zealand, there was no such thing. With standard interest rates on cards at about 20%, “low” rates were about 7% at the cheapest. But now ANZ are offering 2.99% on balance transfers for 6 months. And while most banks won’t “lend” me money (because we have investment properties), one of our mortgages is with ANZ and they have decided to take our business. I am not taking on an extra credit card – I will be canceling the ASB card as soon as I have the physical new card – I just want to take advantage of a good offer!
This is the only credit card we have with debt on it – and it is associated with Hubby’s contracting business – so this is where all the set up costs, training costs and such went. The interest we are paying on the card with ASB is about $200 a month. On the ANZ card it will be about $30.
Not a bad saving.
Even better – one of those money saving options that results from not having to “give up” a single cup of coffee (or anything else!)
Of course the trick to being a successful Tart is to keep paying off the credit card at the same rate, and not see the $170 reduction as extra money you can spend! I will be aiming to have the balance paid off in full by the end of the 6 months introductory period, and then we can go back to not having a revolving balance on any of our cards.
So thanks today goes to ANZ bank – for not only helping me out with my finances and budgeting, but for making the process of getting the cards and transferring the balance an easy and pleasant one. I am very impressed.
In contrast to my opinion of Kiwibank.
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